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2006-11-21 [Ilana]: No, I think it's pen because she says that all she had available was orange paper.
2006-11-21 [Sungmina]: My scanner's been broken for ages lol I'm so sad, I'm trying to figure out how to get it up and running again!
2006-11-21 [meatwagon]: Nope. I couldn't do photomanipulat
2006-11-21 [Ocean Soul]: I did something like that with a photo reference of myself once :D I like yours a lot, [meatwagon] ^_^
2006-11-21 [meatwagon]: Thank you very much ^^ Your entry is gorgeous. Love the colors. Did you use a template?
2006-11-21 [Ocean Soul]: Uh, what's a template oO
2006-11-21 [Kuehne]: we have some wonderful artist in here.
2006-11-21 [Ocean Soul]: We do, I agree :) No matter what, Elftown is still a place for artsy people I say ^__^
2006-11-21 [Kuehne]: does that mean that you consider me artsy??
2006-11-21 [Ocean Soul]: Duh, you can't really think that you aren't :P
2006-11-21 [Atayemi]: Everyone's artsy! :D Oooh, cute emotion things! :P
2006-11-21 [Yuriona]: Yes, another site falls prey to the cute little emotion images.
2006-11-21 [Atayemi]: XD Awww. How do you get rid of the link thing though? :S
2006-11-21 [Yuriona]: I don't think you do.
2006-11-21 [Ocean Soul]: :3
2006-11-21 [Atayemi]: Cuuuuute! When were they put here? O_o
2006-11-21 [Zab]: Not long ago ;)
2006-11-21 [Shjahjdahdvwa]: this one is hot
2006-11-21 [Ilana]: Oy vey.
2006-11-21 [Yuriona]:
2006-11-22 [kittygirl1017]:
2006-11-22 [Sienta]: must.. finish!! Deadline.... Curse you deadline!(the emotion is me staring at my computer screen after three hours of working on a stone wall on paint)
2006-11-22 [Yuriona]: DOETH! Must finish shading...
2006-11-22 [kittygirl1017]: OMG! you guys better hurry!!
2006-11-22 [Sienta]: I stayed up too late... and it's still not done yet... Must work more.
2006-11-22 [Ocean Soul]: :S I'm really curious about it already!
2006-11-23 [Ilana]: Man... these emotion images are bugging me already.
2006-11-23 [Sienta]: Wow, someone's curious? I hope I don't let you down! This is *hopefully* going to be my first contest, so I hope it goes ok. Although when I look at the other entries... (sorry if this emotion bugged anyone, but it was the only way to express what I was feeling)I don't know if it's going to be any good.
2006-11-23 [iippo]: That emoticon expresses the exact same feeling as ^_^; does, with the only exception that ^_^; is much faster to load for people like me on sucky computers/conn
2006-11-23 [Sienta]: Well, that makes me feel... special. If I work fast enough I may even have it up before I go to bed. Oh no, it's past midnight already...
I'm still mostly computer illiterate, so I'm limited to smily faces :) and a few others. ^_^; (yay! just learned it!)
2006-11-23 [Sienta]: Oh... no... Now I'm done with my picture and have it uplaoded to my house... and I can't figure out how to enter it in the contest. *lots of tears of frustration* I'm going to bed.
2006-11-23 [Calico Tiger]: Hehe, it's not hard, [Sienta] :D Just right click on the picture and click on "copy image location" (assuming you're not one of those blasphemous mac users, that is). Then edit the page and paste the location. Just look at how the other people on the page did it when you click edit (the format they used to make it show up). We're all more than willing to help out!
2006-11-23 [moira hawthorne]: isnt there a wiki that shows all the different way to make smileys with just the keyboard letter and such.. like... =^.^= =p ;D ...???
2006-11-23 [Ilana]: Hey, I resent that "blashphemous mac users" comment. I'm a mac user and I can copy image locations just fine, thank you.
2006-11-23 [The Scarlet Pumpernickle]: how is it different anyways?
2006-11-23 [H3_six]: *Hugs macintosh*
*kicks software for being incompatible*
2006-11-23 [Ilana]: A fellow mac user? Who'd a thunk it? We have almost the same name AND we're both mac users. Go us!
2006-11-23 [H3_six]: Oooooh, this is getting spooky...
2006-11-23 [Ilana]: It is indeed.
2006-11-23 [kittygirl1017]: LOL! I love [Acceber]'s! Insane Fairy! XD
2006-11-23 [Acceber]: Thank you! I love yours too, cats are great ^^
2006-11-23 [kittygirl1017]: Thanks! ^^
I laughed so hard went I saw it. :P
2006-11-23 [Cathos]: *does the happy apple dance* Yays or Mac users. :)
2006-11-23 [moira hawthorne]: [Artemis Riddle] - Town Elf, notice the hair. I really don't see much ;)... I had a westie (terrier - dog) that had the same hair... he saw fine...
2006-11-23 [Calico Tiger]: Copying an image location on a mac is different from copying one on a non-mac :) So my instructions on how to post her image may or may not have worked. If you get upset at things like that, then I'm afraid I have to throw couch pillows at you o_O
2006-11-23 [Artemis Riddle]: Well I don't ;) As my hair is in my eyes all the time. Proovs I'm not a dog thou
2006-11-23 [sequeena_rae]: I love it Arty :P
2006-11-23 [moira hawthorne]: I like the hair over one eye style best
2006-11-23 [Artemis Riddle]: thankies Squee ;)
2006-11-23 [Sienta]: Thank you again Calico Tiger. I will do so when I have more time!! Now I have to go ride the horse.*hee hee*
2006-11-23 [Ilana]: Actually it is the same with the new macs. Only better... because macs are better.
2006-11-23 [Yncke]: *rolls eyes*
2006-11-23 [Yuriona]: *rolls eyes too*
2006-11-23 [Ocean Soul]: I have worked with both, and I wouldn't be able to say which one is "better" :P
2006-11-23 [Yncke]: I, on the contrary, most certainly can. :P
2006-11-24 [The Scarlet Pumpernickle]: bicker bicker bicker. Well I use Linex! So ha!
2006-11-24 [Kuehne]: wow.. this has been a very popular contest!
2006-11-24 [Sienta]: Oh my god!! I did it! *does dance of complete and utter joy* How can I go to bed now?! Oh yeah, I have work tomorrow... *grumble grumble* Hmmm, you can't see all the pretty shading that I did on it. *tear* Oh well. Just be sure and take a look at the sign if you can. I hope you like!
2006-11-24 [Purple Artichoke]: I'm so happy I finally got something up :D
wow, this has been a popular contest, there's so much competition its GREAT!
2006-11-24 [Vampire Akis]: *looks above* I'm not gonna win but hey I participated! ^^ Now I can die in peace.
2006-11-24 [Caterin S.]: Whee, I still had time to participate! *makes a little dance*
2006-11-25 [The Scarlet Pumpernickle]: wow. This is a popular contest. Great entires guys!
2006-11-25 [Yncke]: @[Nevenomi]: has that entry - which is a very nice drawing, btw - been made for this contest? I thought I have seen it before, but I can be mistaken, of course :).
2006-11-25 [Elegy - gone]: Timestamp says 2005-10-02 14:09:25, so no, not made for this contest.
2006-11-25 [Ilana]: Oh oh. By the way, you're entry is really cool, [Mekashef]! The penguin and the platypus are so cute!
2006-11-25 [The Scarlet Pumpernickle]: lol, I love Mekashef's entry. :P
2006-11-25 [fen]: thanks whoever fixed my entry
2006-11-25 [banu]: I have changed my entry's original size.Can it be a problem?
2006-11-25 [The Scarlet Pumpernickle]: I think it should be fine. :)
2006-11-25 [The Scarlet Pumpernickle]: oh and I think [Nevenomi]'s entry is a little odd myself. Since..obvious
2006-11-25 [banu]: It seems better now
2006-11-25 [banu]: I hope that I dont interfere with anybody's work but I thought I also have seen [Nevenomi]'s drawing before.I am so sorry If I am wrong...
2006-11-25 [Zab]: It is uploaded to Elftown 2005... >_>
2006-11-25 [banu]: Then, I am not wrong^^
2006-11-25 [banu]: I agree with you [Atayemi]!It looks very very good!Well done [Mekashef] if you accept my greetings^^
2006-11-25 [Mekashef]: Thank you very much. :D I was rushed to meet the deadline, & I still haven't figured out how to scan coloured sketches very well, but I'm happy with how this turned out.
I'm just glad I found the time to participate. This is an awesome theme & there are many superb entries.
2006-11-25 [banu]: Yeap, that's true and yours is really very good...Good luck!o^_^o
2006-11-25 [moira hawthorne]: so is there any decision on [Nevenomi]'s
since its a fan protrait NOT a self protrait...
is there one slot still open?
2006-11-25 [Calico Tiger]: Considering it was also made before the contest by a year and not for the contest, likely it will be removed with Loth checks things out :)
2006-11-25 [Sunrose]: Fixed it :)
2006-11-25 [Linderel]: *phew* So lucky I got it done before the contest closes.
2006-11-26 [Yuriona]: AH nuts... I still gotta shade mine! ><
2006-11-26 [Ilana]: I guess the deadline's up now... So many entries... wow.
2006-11-26 [Sienta]: I know exactly what you mean Yuriona. I know I did the best I could considering, but... I should have just done a drawing and scanned it!!
2006-11-26 [Nadie importante]: so since today is dead line...is it like the last day to post the entry or last entry was to be posted at 1 second to midnight of the 25th?:P
2006-11-26 [Linderel]: Hey, on ET it's already the 26th. :P So we're actually over the deadline.
2006-11-26 [Nadie importante]: hmm wait but the deadlien is the 26th...so we have until sunday 26 23:59 to post our entries or today noone can post anything else?
2006-11-26 [Linderel]: Eh, it says the deadline is the 25th. But I'd say that people can submit until someone closes it. ... I think.
2006-11-26 [Nevenomi]: hah,oh sorry you guys.I guess I've missed the self-portrait thing.I thought it was just a portrait.My mistake:)
2006-11-26 [Nadie importante]: ow darn i thought it was 26:S|so can i submit my entry in a sec?:$
2006-11-26 [Linderel]: [Nevenomi]: You apparently also missed the part about the image being new. Yours was uploaded to Elftown last year; that's not new.
2006-11-26 [Linderel]: [Nadie importante]: Umm, I think so. I'm not handling this contest, but I don't think anyone will bite if you submit it before someone comes along and closes the contest. :3
2006-11-26 [Nadie importante]: well thank you very much[Linderel] i guess the worst will be that my entry will be deleted:-)!
2006-11-26 [Nadie importante]: OK, its done:P not finished but at least its here^^
2006-11-26 [moira hawthorne]: it must be love...
2006-11-26 [earthkynd]: love love (8)
2006-11-26 [Nadie importante]: haha, whats anything without love?:P so people do you think my entry is suitable enough for this contest?
2006-11-26 [earthkynd]: I think it absolutely is.
But ah, who am I to say?
2006-11-26 [Nadie importante]: a good critiziser (uh...spellimg?
2006-11-26 [Nadie importante]: the girl, is a fer...I had asked before wether i could post my own fantasy creature, and if you want more informationa bout it I will gladly giev it to you:-)^^
2006-11-26 [Elegy - gone]: Bah, my comment disappeared O.o how strange... but sure maybe you should write that next to your image? 'Cause to me she looks all human =P
2006-11-26 [Nadie importante]: just because she doesnt have pointy ears:P?;-)
but wouldn't it be too much of a long description if i did? what if i just write it here? so theres note that its not just a human
2006-11-26 [Nadie importante]: neither of them anyway
2006-11-26 [Kuehne]: actually my entry IS human (100%), and they said it was good to go.
2006-11-26 [Nadie importante]: paladin..isnt that like jedi thingy?:P sorry im an ignorant i know...well mine isnt human at all...so if i have to proove it by letting everyone know what a fer is:P I will!:P its agood entry btw [Kuehne]
2006-11-26 [Zab]: I think the rule that it should be fantasy was to ensure that the portrait looked like a fantasy creature and not a human tho. But I'm not hosting this contest, so let's leave it for Loth:P
2006-11-26 [Nadie importante]: it said fantasy creature:-) it didnt specify it had to have wings or a tail or whiskers so it would look fantastical, plus vampires..only look fantastical when their mouths are open:)
2006-11-26 [Purple Artichoke]: but if you are a human on elftown then i think it will be okay
2006-11-26 [Zab]: I just told you what I understood when Loth explained it to me when I asked..that was a while ago tho. It's still her decission anyway.
2006-11-26 [Ocean Soul]: "If Elftown was real, who would you be? The street child picking pockets, the mighty warrior that protects the citizens from harm? All fantasy races are allowed. You decide!"
Kind of includes the race "human", if you ask me :)
2006-11-26 [Nadie importante]: yeah:P unless being a street child is a race called...stree
2006-11-26 [Ocean Soul]: It's more like a profession of some sort :P
2006-11-26 [Elegy - gone]: There are children in all races, street child doesn't necessary mean human street child =P
But yes, you make a good case, Ocean Soul =P
2006-11-26 [Nadie importante]: I know..i realized it late...but you know..as human its my first instinct to think a child=human:P like pup=dog...etce
2006-11-26 [Ocean Soul]: That wasn't my point. More the part "All fantasy races are allowed. You decide!". I understand it that human also counts as a fantasy race, since you can be a human in all kinds of fantasy games and such.
2006-11-26 [Elegy - gone]: Yeah, I got that =P
2006-11-26 [Nadie importante]: changing the subject a little bit:$ but talking about fantasy, when it comes to magic, what sort of magic do you find more believeable or satisfactory when it books and movies, the magic, that is more subtle but is still magic...lotrs movie type thing more or less...or the more fireworks etc magic?
2006-11-26 [Elegy - gone]: I don't find magic believable at all =P
2006-11-26 [Zab]: Rain is magic. ^__^
2006-11-26 [Nadie importante]: haha...im just talking about fantasy...like a fantasy story:-) rain is magic8-)..hmm...rain is water?:P
2006-11-26 [Zab]: *grins* Weeeell.. rain gives life, and life is magic, at least in my eyes ;) In a fantasy story..that depends entirely on how it's written.
2006-11-26 [Kuehne]: a paladin was a warrior/knight that fought for a religious cause.
I like the the more subtle magic.. the kind that has limits and isn't "all powerful"
2006-11-26 [Nadie importante]: haha yes i read that on what the heck zab believes:P
well what do you mean on how its written?
2006-11-26 [Zab]: Well..Terry Pratchet-alike stories can have whatever magic they want:P More medieval-ish stories might be better off with subtle magic, I mostly like stories written so you almost think it has happened, and what the person in the book thinks is magic might just be herbs or science.. or what we think is science might be magic ;)
2006-11-26 [Nadie importante]: hmm great point:P so i guess it wouldnt sound very good if you had things flying around in a medievalish type story?:P
but that thing about one liking to think they actually happened...tha
2006-11-26 [moira hawthorne]: admusing.. that you cant draw a human and submit it to elfwood tho... because a say viking doesnt qualify as fantasy b/c there were them in history... or some drawns a woman in medieval garb in a realist settting and its not fantasy... Im not saying this is right.. just this is the way it is... why is human a race choice in elftown but not considered fantasy in elfwood... you can only get your drawing past if you stick pointed ears on that human and call them an elf... or wings and call them a faery
2006-11-26 [Ilana]: Is that sort of like racism? hardee har har
2006-11-26 [moira hawthorne]: yes I suppose it is... fun that that anit it...
2006-11-26 [banu]: I am late for that: http://elftown
2006-11-26 [Nadie importante]: well u could also just say..its avampire! and thats it:P
2006-11-27 [Kuehne]: It truely is all in the descriptions. I've had my drawings rejected by elfwood because they weren't "fantasy enough", but then I submitted the same drawing again with a different discription and it was accepted. The discription didn't really even change the subject of the picture at all.
2006-11-27 [The Scarlet Pumpernickle]: ya....well elfwood can be a little messed up at times
2006-11-27 [iippo]: People go to Elfwood to see fantasy and sci-fi art... If your work got rejected for not being suitable, why would you resubmit it and try to force it in? Isn't it a bit mean, wasting people's time when they want to see F&SF-art, not a pseudo-fantasy drawing where all the fantasy is in the description? o.O
2006-11-27 [banu]: Thank you to fix it!:)I think you have done it, [Sunrose]!Thank you so much my dear friend!
2006-11-27 [Sunrose]: You're welcome :)
2006-11-27 [Nadie importante]: well depends how u look at it...my characters look human enough but they're not even close so description does play a good role...and if the drawing is nice i think there is nothing wrong with it. and elfwood is just way too strict..ridicu
2006-11-27 [FetishFaerie]: If you don't like the rules at Elfwood, there are hundreds of other websites out there where you can post your artwork, fantasy/sci-fi or otherwise. But Elfwood is a free place to host your images and communicate with other fantasy/sci-fi artists and appreciators. The least people can do is follow the rules (as tricky as they seem to be, sometimes.)
2006-11-27 [*DIABOLICAL MASQUERADE*]: I'm so sad, I wanted to Enter!!!
Great Entries Though!!!
2006-11-28 [The Scarlet Pumpernickle]: very true [FetishFaerie] I don't think anyone was disagreeing with that. I have a number of sites that I post on... and even though EW takes longer I still post there because I like the people on it... it's kind of more community oriented. I have quite a few friends on it...
2006-11-28 [Nadie importante]: not saying its a bad website its pretty good actually but its just..exagerat
2006-11-28 [Lakayana]: i like elftown all the way though there are rules. there is no place on earth without rules and the rules are there to guide us but not to harm us. Any place without rules is bound to suffer problems and misconducts. All thanks goes to his royal highness [Hedda] the mayor and [Sunrose]the never tiring queen bee.
2006-11-28 [Ilana]: We're talking about Elfwood, not Elftown. But you know, nothing's stopping you from expressing your love for Elftown either.
2006-11-28 [Lakayana]: yeah if it's elfwood, I've once tried it and it I could not really find my way through. Elfwood is something else entirely. It's a real wood
2006-11-28 [Artemis Riddle]: Elfwood is actually not that bad << or I find it so, when you've just got the hang of it.
2006-11-28 [Ocean Soul]: I guess once you have some friends or acquaintances there it's really nice ^__^ I had that once, but then they all left so.. I kind of left as well :/
2006-11-28 [Artemis Riddle]: But the long time to get updated is a really big minus OO There deviantart is so much better^^
2006-11-28 [Ocean Soul]: Agreed. On the other hand.. people on dA submit just about anything and the quality in some galleries is just poor ><'
2006-11-28 [Artemis Riddle]: yeah :/ they do conroll it somewhat thou, one of my photos were moved because they ment it wasn't in the rigth cathegory
2006-11-28 [Atayemi]: I don't go on DA as much anymore. I prefer it much more here because it's easier to get around. :P
2006-11-28 [Lakayana]: all the same but I love elftown. EA is really a place to be...
2006-11-28 [Atayemi]: Your opinion. ;)
2006-11-28 [Sunrose]: You can now vote for the winning entry in the Mainstreet poll! :)
2006-11-28 [Linderel]: Didn't get any votes... Alas, such is life. :P
2006-11-28 [Nadie importante]: sigh once again:P not even in the top ten:P oh well...ill try again next time
2006-11-28 [Elwyne]: Don't feel too bad Baty. You're drawing isn't bad at all! We just have some really awe inspiring artists here in Elftown that make artists like you and me look almost mediocre. Hmmm... maybe if you made the lines a bit darker though. I kinda can't see the picture very well.
2006-11-28 [Linderel]: And me they make look like something below mediocre. xD
2006-11-28 [Elwyne]: Don't be absurd Linderel! You have a good eye for proportion, and that's not easy to get. You just need to continue practicing. I also like how you managed to shrink the writing on the book without making it look terrible. It looks like it might mean something if you got close enough to read it.
2006-11-28 [Linderel]: Aww, thank you. :3 Yeah, it's a poem, one of my first ones in English. Old as hell, but short enough to be put there. :)
2006-11-28 [Elwyne]: Really? Cool! So you really did shrink something! That's awesome!
2006-11-28 [Linderel]: Uh, I just wrote it by mouse there when the piece was in a 200% zoom. I didn't actually shrink anything, unless you count the resizing after the whole piece was done.
2006-11-28 [Elwyne]: well, it's still funny and cool. at least I think so!
2006-11-28 [Linderel]: ^_^
2006-11-28 [Elwyne]:
2006-11-28 [moira hawthorne]: go vote on main street for your fav!
2006-11-28 [Shainn]: yeah.. my vote for [Ocean Soul].. -whisper in a sinister tone- lelamshin dlil ilythiiri zhah ulu harluth jal! -grins and hides in shadows before those surface elves notice him-
2006-11-28 [Nadie importante]: well [elwyne+ i dont like to think i look mediocre next to anyone just because i cant control the computer:P but about the lines..my scanner always makes my drawings go lighter? oh well...Next time ill just ink or try doing something over the computer:P
2006-11-28 [Elwyne]: I know the feeling baty. My scanner (or more accurately my mother's scanner) does the same thing. So I always trace over my lines with ink. Gel ink writes more smoothly, but unfortunately it also spreads some which makes the details harder to maintain. If that advice helps at all.
2006-11-28 [banu]: My vote is for [Ocean Soul].It is really great drawing..All drawing (except mine ) are very beautiful:)Good luck!
2006-11-28 [Elwyne]: Ach! No one thinks there own art is any good! What is it with that? I know I have a long way to go myself, but I have acheived quite a bit for someone who's never had an art lesson, and even if I can't compare with most of the people on Elftown, I won't let that get me thinking I'm not good at all! (sorry about that, I just had to get that off my chest)
2006-11-28 [banu]: That's true,I agree with you.I have never an art lesson.In fact that I am research assistant & doctorate student at department of statistics!:)I mean that "drawing" comes from your inner beauty.It doesnt matter how it is shown by you.
2006-11-28 [Elwyne]: yay!
2006-11-28 [Ocean Soul]: I never had anyone teach me how to draw or paint either (much less digitall stuff -.- duh).. but as long as you have fun you'll eventually figure out how to express your ideas :)
2006-11-28 [Elwyne]: yep!
2006-11-28 [Elwyne]: even if you have to rip up a good hundred or so pictures in the process (like I did)
2006-11-28 [Ocean Soul]: Yep *nod nod* as long as you don't stop trying, you will eventually end up with a result that's at least a little satisfying ^__^
2006-11-28 [banu]: agreed.I am new at drawing.My thesis takes my whole time but drawing makes me relax:)A doctorate thesis about statistics!!!!
2006-11-29 [H3_six]: Look at that, I logged on and my drawings on mainstreet! Thanks so much.
2006-11-29 [Sienta]: good for you H3_six! Mine didn't make it, but I was expecting that. The good news is, my aunt is bringing her photoshop program with her when she comes at Christmas! Yay!
2006-11-29 [5thwitch]: oh! I missed this contest! anyway goodluck to everyone!
2006-11-30 [Ilana]: Congrats to all the finalists!
2006-11-30 [Gwenn*]: How have they been selected?
2006-11-30 [Ocean Soul]: "Ten images will be picked out by the Council and Assembly among all those presented."
2006-11-30 [Gwenn*]: Oh, I've seen, but I just wanted to know if there was criterion :)
2006-11-30 [Ocean Soul]: The usual - creativity, idea, effort, skill, whole impression..
2006-11-30 [Gwenn*]: OK :)
2006-11-30 [Nadie importante]: why was sunny's entry removed from the mainstreet poll?:S
2006-11-30 [Zab]: It didn't follow the rules about colored or shaded artwork. :) It was still a very good picture tho, but meant as a placeholder when it was submitted.
2006-11-30 [Nadie importante]: ow that sucks...i wonder why the council chose it then:P though its one of the best drawings for sure!
2006-11-30 [Zab]: It was a mistake to chose it, but I suppose the fact that we forgot the rules when we watched it tells a bit of the quality ;)
2006-11-30 [Nadie importante]: haha yes:P so hey how come you always seem to know almost everything?:P not to say everything8-):P
2006-11-30 [Zab]: I've been part of the council, I still knew a little about it. ;)
2006-11-30 [Nadie importante]: oh..you're not anymore?
2006-11-30 [Zab]: I've retired:)
2006-11-30 [Nadie importante]: Too much work?
2006-11-30 [Zab]: Well, let's just said I had my reasons :P And it wasn't because of the others in the crew or the work.
2006-11-30 [Nadie importante]: OKIDOKIE!
Btw, how long have you been drawing horses? you're too good at it..i guess they're ur favorite animals?
2006-11-30 [Zab]: As long as I can remember. :) But we're off topic, we should take this to a private wiki or messages ;)
2006-11-30 [Nadie importante]: haha yes:P well must say i love your colouring and drawing tecnics! and btw can you have coloured words in wikis?
2006-11-30 [Zab]: Nope you can't:P
Thanks.
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